There's a lot I consider myself 'behind on' movie-wise, and unfortunately, the horror genre has been the most neglected (blame my overbearing mother for that). Believe me though- it's on the list (which is at a count of 103 right now) and will be watched asap unlike many of the others which have found themselves in movie-limbo (I'm looking at *you* Seven Samurai).
Admittedly it was a very childish way of putting it. But seriously, I thought that movie had so much potential with the concept, but the execution was severely lacking to me. I can sit here and tell you how much I hated it and why, but that seems like such a supreme waste of both of our time. I really wanted to enjoy it, I even watched it again several years later, just to be sure, but that movie evoked such a negative response from me that I couldn't stop my little fingers from typing. So, sorry. I know it sucks when people rag on the things you like, I just really dislike that movie. =.=
I spent last night going through years-old IMDB archives on the subject, so personally I'm a bit beyond worrying I'm wasting time on it. If you're ever up to it.
It seems like the complaints are scattered and almost mutually-exclusive, but consistent:
- frustrating (not necessarily a comment on the quality) - bad dialogue/acting or, the most beautiful and benighted of them all: - "IT DIDN'T EXPLAIN ANYTHING"
I think the only way I could have been upset with Cube would be if I'd gone into it expecting anything. And having seen Cube 2: HYPERCUBE several times prior, I certainly didn't go into it asking for anything huge.
"I think the only way I could have been upset with Cube would be if I'd gone into it expecting anything."
See, you just put your finger on it right there.
I watched it on a recommendation from a coworker who had just seen it. We were talking about the movie Pi, which is a fairly cerebral movie, (please don't think I'm some film nazi either, far from it) and he assured me that if I liked Pi I would really like Cube. So I rented it with a few friends who were all familiar with Pi and we were all left with a "WTF did I just waste my time on?" kind of feeling. :/ I think having such a high expectation and receiving such a disappointment instead was what turned me off it. The move, to me, was laughable at best. Or as my husband put it: "it was a glorified D&D session and the only reason the retard made it out was because he was the one that didn't belong".
So that, coupled with the reasons you listed, was why Cube left me feeling so sour. It's a shame, really, cos the movie could have been so freakin' awesome.
So then, can I ask why you feel it got undeserved criticism?
See, this is why I try to learn as little as possible about a film before I see it.
Still have yet to try Pi, amazingly.
(NOTE: MY GOD I WROTE A LOT HERE WOW YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO READ ALL THIS. IT WAS A FUN EXERCISE ANYHOW.)
Okay: first off, as someone trying to be a good writer (and more recently, coming fresh off a writing course that focused on successful plotting), I would have been exceedingly proud to have written that film. The mountaintop yells of "IT DIDN'T EXPLAIN THE CUUUUBE" are fall-down hilarious, because if they'd explained it, Cube would not be Cube. Nothing says it has to be explained except your track record with other movies. Explaining why they're there negates the frustration you share with the characters, the existential themes, the possible social allegory, and makes the movie a lot less memorable. It's my favorite case of cinematic blue-balls.
(Also I'm used to horror films that are great fun until you realize that the Big Bad is someone's lost twin brother, or worse, just some guy with a thing for garden hose jugulars. Ever hear that rule that "what the audience can imagine is scarier than anything you could put on the screen"? I feel like the film pretty much proves that.)
To the accusations of bad acting... I've seen worse, but I can let those slide as fact. To me acting is usually only a symptom of a bad film, though, not the maker of one. Again, this is me being more plot-oriented.
Most important is the entertainment factor. I was never once bored with it. The characters make discoveries (encouraging or not) at a steady climb, and degenerate at a rate that exacerbates the drama perfectly. Basically, it's well-paced. I think if I sat down and tried, I could come up with a "more fun" set of events. But as a film about people stuck in a terrible funhouse, I was somehow entirely satisfied with it.
Word, dude, you're probably better off that way. XD
I will neither impede nor encourage your decision on whether there is room for Pi.
See, these are reasons that make total sense, rather than the dribble my coworker was trying to justify when I chewed him out after watching the movie. I agree, if you explained it, there would be no Cube, yes. It would simply turn it into another Man-behind-the curtain piece of shite and there's no fun in that.
Ever hear that rule that "what the audience can imagine is scarier than anything you could put on the screen"? *nod, nod* I totally get it, yeah. And you're right. Honestly, I didn't think of it this way. We were too busy complaining about the movie to think of it. XD
I will also completely agree with the last point. The pace of the film was something I didn't have a problem with and I did rather enjoy the discoveries and deaths. And yes, there is always worse acting. But there was something in the way the characters were written that didn't sit well with me. Meh.
So yes, thank you for indulging me, it's always nice to see a different side of things. And again, sorry about the first comment. I had a nice shower right after posting it and thought, "Ohh, crap, I hope I didn't piss her off." XD
Oh god, the characters were SO VERY hard to care about as individuals. We know nothing about them aside from what they're willing to tell, and they get so nasty so fast.
But like most of its limitations, I can see how that could work for the movie's theme. Like how the only truly innocent person survived, where for most of the movie he was seen as a nuisance until he had an important talent.
DON'T BE SORRY, haha. I think I'm used to you having definite opinions on things. I was actually glad someone might have wanted to talk about it.